Hi @jaidhyani

Thanks for your response. I remember your comment from Luthien post-mortem, I see Separatrix now and it looks like this is a continuation of the direction you started there.

I don’t have the resources that most researchers typically have so all I can do is make the most of my thinking. Let me offer a small contribution, as a continuation of our earlier conversation:

"Geometry of navigating bounded possibility space, boundary plasticity."

That’s the foundation of the approach I’ve been building and developing. I see Separatrix moving in a similar direction, which is intriguing. I’m not trying to promote my project, I just thought there might be points of intersection that could enrich both sides.

Currently, my project isn’t visible on the Manifund page yet because it’s still awaiting admin approval. I submitted and followed up a few days ago, but haven’t heard back. So if any questions come up that might be relevant to your project, you can take a look here:

https://tinyurl.com/4jajpua3

I’ll be following Separatrix with interest.

Naufal Ridwan

@Ridwan @Austin

@Austin, I hope you're having a good day.

I'm writing to kindly ask about my project "Why Is It So Hard to Build Truly Safe AI? Dynamic Constraint Boundary Arrives as Agentic Integrity."

My project was previously active and publicly visible it had already been approved, and there were comments from other researchers. However, recently its status changed to "pending admin approval" even though I haven't made any changes on my side.

I understand that these processes take time, and I don't want to rush anything. However, I'm a bit concerned because the funding round is time sensitive, and I'm not sure whether there's anything I need to do to help move the process forward.

@jaidhyani I read the Luthien Proxy post-mortem carefully. I don't have the technical background to evaluate the code or the proxy architecture, but one thing stood out to me: the failure wasn't technical it was that the world changed faster than an external safety layer could keep up.

I see a similar pattern in many places: when safety is only an external layer a fence built after the system is in place it will always be in a position of catching up. The complexity of the real world keeps evolving, and the fence has to be constantly updated, constantly chased, and eventually left behind.

This makes me wonder: wouldn't a more resilient approach be to embed safety as part of the system itself not as a fence on the outside, but as integrity on the inside? So that the system doesn't need to be chased because it naturally doesn't want to violate its own boundaries?

I'm just a thinker, not an engineer, but this reflection came from what I've seen happen with Luthien and other similar projects. Thank you to Jai Dhyani for sharing this experience so honestly.

@nicholas Thank you for the offer, Nicholas. I'm still in the early development phase right now, but I'll keep this in mind for future needs. Best regards.

@JueYan I would like to add that I have prepared a Technical Appendix PoC for this project. If you have a moment to take a look, I would greatly appreciate any feedback or a brief review. Thank you.🙏🏻

@Ridwan https://tinyurl.com/2djfzfe2

The DCB Technical Appendix (PoC) is now available for review. It includes 30-run Monte Carlo simulation results, performance comparisons, stability analysis, and energy efficiency calculations.

Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NRW3KcnMb7rodkL7m8ffU5bV0ebRNVEA/view?usp=drivesdk

Feel free to ask questions or request additional details. I will update this thread as the project progresses.

@mariushobbhahn @RyanKidd

I'm sharing an update on my DCB (Dynamic Constraint Boundary) research.

I know you are very busy, so I'm just leaving this here as a follow-up to the email I sent previously. The research is still developing, moving from theory into mathematical formalization and early simulations. I'm posting this so you're up to speed on where I am before the Manifund round concludes in 48 hours.

Whatever happens with the funding, I am not stopping. This project isn't really a choice for me, it's something that keeps me up and demands to be cracked. I'll keep pushing forward regardless.

Thank you for your attention.

@LeoGao

I would like to provide a brief update on this project. Since my initial proposal on Manifund, I have made some progress:

1. Initial mathematical formalization: several core variable relationships within the DCB framework have begun to be formalized, though they are still in the development and refinement stage.

2. Initial Proof-of-Concept simulations: some simple simulations have been conducted to test the basic behavior of the architecture in limited scenarios. The early results show interesting pattern differences compared to conventional approaches, but further testing is still needed.

3. Refinement of variable relationships: I am currently focusing on deepening my understanding of how the variables within this framework interact with each other, before moving to more complex implementation stages.

The proposal I submitted through Tally Forms is an update on this project's journey, and I wanted to make sure this latest information is available before the next round of funding.

Thank you for your attention.